What's good e-thugs, message board terrorists, low comprehension/small attention spanned G-UWayne Set loyalists, fellow bloggers, Hip Hop purists and all you other candy asses that peruse HipHopDX.com? It's been about a week since I posted my last blog and I must say in that week nothing worth writing a long passage about has transpired. Besides that a nigga's been trying to get ready to move, writing mad reviews at the other site I write for and copulating with your respective moms'. In the meantime I came up with 5 stray shots for yall to discuss. Check me out.
1. Stones Throw = Rawkus Circa late 90s
2. Eminem = the biggest fall off in Hip Hop (been thinking this one for a minute)
Or sub in Nelly and remove Hip Hop and insert rap i.e. Nelly = the biggest fall off in rap history
3. Robin Thicke on BET = Reverse Affirmative Action
Note: Okay, now that this guy has gotten on live TV and sucked balls (reference BET performance if you can call it that) can we stop calling him the Blue Eyed Soul?
4. Midwest (Mainly Chicago + Detroit) = What New York was in the early, mid and late 90s to Hip Hop
5. Did anyone see Lil Wayne's daughter's boots??? Never call yourself the birdman again for allowing your daughter to ether herself in front of millions. Shame on you Wayne
Let the debates begin...
Say Lil Wayne is nice to some and you might catch a verbal beatdown and an Uncle Murda. Say Lil Wayne is wack to some dudes and you might catch a verbal beatdown and a Camron (word to Tru Life). It all depends on the person you're talking to. Either you love him or you hate him. So, one day after coming home from my sorry ass 9-5, I began to wonder who else had a movement like this and it came to me on some real Keyser Soze type shit.
To SOME of these dudes Lil Wayne is like their new Pac
Disclaimer: Now, personally, I don't believe that Wayne is a carbon copy of Pac but there's some strong similarities. Bottom line: keep an open mind and peep game e-thug message board terrorists and close minded haters. And this is a long ass post. Just giving yall short attention span fucks a pre-game warning.
"Following a persona not a person"
Back in Pac's day, it was the shit to be the most hardbody n***a. That's basically what sold records i.e. Ice-T, Ice Cube, N.W.A. etc. So, when Pac dropped the whole Black Panther/political/socially conscious persona and got on that "thug life" bullshit his popularity rose. So, millions of fans got behind him because they either identified with thug life or fantasized about being some hardbody ass criminal. Some fans, not all, got behind dude because they thought Pac was the "realest n***a " EVAR not because he was a poet, not because he was the illest lyricist but because he was what they envisioned as a real ass n***a.
With Wayne, we're in a different time. This generation's motto is "get money" so, who better to get behind then the creator of "Bling Bling" and a dude who has M.O.B. tatted on his stomach. Wayne's fast rise from weed stashery to Cash Money C.E.O. embodies what youngens aspire to do; get money and get it as quick as possible as well as flaunting it as recklessly as possible. You might ask a cat why they support Wayne and they might say something along the lines of "he's getting money right now." It ain't like n***as know him personally or some shit, but you'd think they'd say he's nice and some cats do. Another thing, guess who also flaunted their money like a buffoon...Pac. And guess who's also thinks their John Gotti/hardbody of the millenium, Lil Wayne. Regardless, people support both because in their mind they both symbolize what each's respective generation perceived as "cool."
"Controversy sells"
Pac's had his fair share of moments of acting like a damn idiot when the camera's/voice recorder/whatever media outlet was available was recording. On most recollections, cats remembered Pac as a sensitive, quiet dude who was passionate. When we saw Pac on MTV News, YO MTV Raps!!! or in the Source or wherever now all of a sudden this n***a is a shotta or some shit. Recently, Wayne's been on the same shit. Wayne showed respect to Jigga initially. The dude's album is named the Carter (half New Jack reference/half Jay-z reference you be the judge). He used to say the best rapper alive since the best rapper retired. Not now...Now, he's the best rapper alive. So prior to this point, he's been at least a somewhat respectful dude. Now, this guy get in mags and shows his ass calling out Skateboard P, the Clipse, Jigga whoever. Whenever he gets the chance he says some reckless out the ass type shit.
"Living the character I rap about"
Pac wasn't no thug. He was a poor ass dude that may have moved some dimes and nicks but that's where it stops. Let's keep it 100. The dude was into drama; not beef, acting and poetry. He was passionate but he wasn't no gangster. Later in his career he lived by if thou rap it, thou must live it. So, dude begins slapping up directors (J. Singleton), catching cases, snuffing out Crips w/Suge whose dog was named Damu (so you don't have to wonder what kind of cat Suge was). Unfortunately, yall know the rest of the story; tragic etherization in Vegas. Peep game though with Wayne. Wayne's m.o. used to be stuntin, a little bit of drug/gun talk here and there but nothing too serious. Wayne's first LP if I'm not mistaken didn't have curse words on it. Sound like a thug to you? Right...I didn't think so. Fast forward to Da Drought 3, this cat's Blooded out. How do you become a gangster at his age, I don't know but I suppose he feels like he actually needs to be Nino Brown since he raps about it. Gillie Da Kid put it the best, Dwayne is a good kid...
"Suge v. Baby"
Both of these cats act as father figures for talented artists who needed guidance. Suge bailed Pac out of jail when he was broke. He had no one else to rely on. Pac was always conflicted dude but Suge guided him down a path, one that got him swiss cheesed but nevertheless a path. Baby bankrolled Wayne's stunting when he was broke. Juve, B.G. and all them cats, none of them own their masters/publishing and basically admitted that Baby sonned them and gave them $$$ when they needed it. Their salary was pleading with Baby for dough, real talk. When they got smart they left. So, when the Hot Boys leave the family (a la Dre/Snoop leaving Death Row), it's okay Baby'll take care of it. Baby whispers (ever so sweetly) in Wayne's ear (probably how Suge put the burden on Pac's back to carry the Row), you're going to be the one to save this sinking ship, which is what Wayne credits for his miraculous turnaround and allows Wayne's to be the CEO of Cash Money whatever the fuck that means. But yall get the point. Both Pac and Wayne has Suge and Baby, respectively as father figures. Both cats alienated the whole world and became reliant on their respective father figures.
"Suspect Behavior (just a joke)"
Who the fuck wore their bandana like Pac back in the day??? That shit was sweet like tangerines. Then, the nose ring. Again, saccharin. Wayne, well, we all know the story with Wayne. He kissed Baby. (super pause the fruitiness). Snuggy jeans, smedium V-Necks...
"Napoleon Complex With Jay"
Both artists had their confrontations with Hov. Pac b/c he was vying for the top. Wayne for the same reason. I hope in neither artist's mind they actually believe they're better than Hov but to be the best you have to beat the best.
"Tatted Up"
Self explanatory
"Dear Mama, Dear Cita"
Pac shouts out his ma dukes, so does Wayne.
There's a handful of other reasons, but by this point I'm sure you're tired of reading (and I'm tired of typing) so I'll just end this shit here. What do y'all think???
"Fuck a fair one, I'll get mines the fast way"
-the Notorious B.I.G.(R.I.P.)-
I bet when Big spit that line on Craig Mack's "Flava in Ya Ear (remix)" he never would've thought that shit would end up describing the direction of urban music (rap, hip hop and r&b) a decade and some odd years later. Shit, the n***a was probably thinkin' bout getting $$$ among other things. But, that simple line above perfectly describes why urban music is in such a shitty state.
Rappers
Most mainstream rappers gave up trying to be nice like 10 years ago. Why spend the effort crafting an extended metaphor (if they even know what that is) when they can put together punchlines and similes like "square watch look like Spongebob on the wrist (Fabolous). WTF. So cats traded in metaphors for similes and now it's like fuck similes, I'll ABC a 16, throw T-Akon Kelly on the track and it'll blow as long as the hook sounds catchy and it converts to a polyphonic ring tone. 90% percent of the rap game, feels like fuck the fans as long as I get mines, I'm good money.
Producers
Who needs to learn music theory or how to play instruments when you can make a mill off of looping and sampling up your mom's records. Naw, fuck that I'll snatch the Casio from mom's basement and hit 3 keys, a drum mix key and a loop button. Or let's take it to the lowest common denominator, we can snap, whistle and clap and that'll be our beat. Some shit is creative, some shit is just plain stupid. Most of what we see now is just plain stupid, but hey as long as it gets the dust, it's all good.
R&B Singers
As a singer, you're job is to sing. Well, today...not so much. If you got the look (breast bags and an ass) and can be trained to perform (which equates to being able to dance in a cage and spread eagle onstage/videos) you're good money. Fellow blogger brought up Rihanna, then there's Beyonce, Ashanti etc, etc. Turn off the studio magic and the above are trash. If you don't believe me, go hear Jill Scott live...And lets not get into the subject content which consists of swallowing pipes, riding pipes or giving up the ass as quick as possible. Fuck it, it sells.
Fans
Yea, we fucked up big time. We let all the lame shit slide. We let cats ride around in tanks in videos. We let them do donuts. We let them wear fur coats with white tigers. We allowed our favorite rappers to dumb it down. So if rap is dying, we're to blame too. Mos said it best, rap is going where the people go. Everyone wants to say it's the kids this, the kids that but whose schooling the kids. Think about it. So if cats are pissed with where shit is at, then n***as need to start checkin themselves, their communities, their world. Nobody wants to be accountable, all we want to do is get money. No, not work for it, just get it and get it as soon as possible.
Note: I've added some bold and italics so cats can understand the point of this blog b/c judging from SOME of the comments cats were missing the point. Half my bad, half n***as need to read through the blog in its entirety.
Would it be that surprising if these two clods were chillin' at Jus Blaze's crib jammin the sticks on Knockout Kingz laughin' at how cats are so pressed to know the latest development in the Blaigon beef? Would it be that surprising in the WWE-landscape of rap today? I wouldn't be surprised by that but I don't think neither of these cats are that fuckin smart (no offense to neither but this beef seems like it's on some real man shit).
Let's start here. Two weeks ago I didn't give two fucks about Saigon. I had heard the guy's name years ago, but I couldn't name one track out of his catalogue or at least one that impressed me. All I knew was that he used to occupy the bottom filler tracks on Kay Slay mixtapes right in that late 20 something track bracket. It's the spot the Kay Slay give to his cousin or the dude who hit him off with a yard or two to get the track on the tape word to payola. Bottom line was I had no idea or cared this dude was working on a LP (for 3 fucking years) much less still rapping for that matter or that duke is on HBOs Entourage. Who knew??? Then this dude pulls one of the most apeshit Brian Nichols crazy buck n***a move ever via blog and threatens to leak this "glory" album that's fabled to be better than Illmatic while simultaneously making Jus Blaze to look like the Scrooge Mc Duck/Darth Vadar of hip hop.
And the dude did it via Myspace. No youtube videos, no crazy hot 97 interview with Angie, but a Myspace blog; you know the joints you don't even look at, in the right corner and you only click if you think it's pawg pics. Next thing you know, this cat has hip hop internet coverage every three seconds. So now when this cat breathes hip hop dx, xxl, sohh, allhiphop are all over this dude. Just a week ago, the AVERAGE hip hop fan couldn't even spell Saigon...Now, this dude Saigon is either 1) a marketing/pr guru 2) has brain the size of fruit fly 3) or is a really hood n****a with no sense. You bet your dough on which one he is.
After his blog, Jus Blaze responded with a blog of his own; a blog beef of sorts then commences. Blaze sets the record straight saying the album isn't moving because of some sample clearance issues and basically stated "Yo, I'm Jus Blaze. I work with Jay (insert other top selling rap acts), I'm letting you eat (via beats/studio time), the pres of Atlantic is pushing your sample clearance through and your silly ass decides to go apeshit now?!? The nerve of this n****a." So, Saigon responds via blog (rappers/producers turning into authors; the shit is funny) and the saga continues.
So after all this bullshit, I (probably like about 100K other d-bags) am like who the fuck is this dude b/c according to himself his album is going to Lazareth the game. So I legally buy (legally buy = downloaded for the free.99) one of his mixtape and dude actually turns out being pretty fuego (nice). Imagine 50 + com + Styles P and you got Saigon. Check a stream of the tape out http://whythinkletmedothat.blogspot.com/2007/06/saigon-return-of-yardfather.html
I say that to say this. What is Saigon's single right now? Have you seen dude on 106 & Park? Is he on your favorite radio station? Dude has single handedly snatched the balls of hip hop news coverage without releasing anything on the mainstream and he's doing it not out of his greed but just b/c he think's he's hot and cats need to hear his shit (and cats think hip hop is dead).
I know the answer to all the questions above but the average rap fan doesn't and they should...
1) Record labels take note. You want to build your artist a buzz, have him go plumb foolish like Saigon.
2) All you pricks that think blogging is unimportant tell me two weeks ago you cared about daily updates on Saigon.
3) If rappers can switch over to blogging, who's going to put the boy on a track so I can ABC my way to riches.
Just a few things people need to fall back on...
1. The "I Really Think Hip Hop is Dead" Assertion
Nas' album title accomplished exactly what he set out to do. 1) To make a bold statement about the current state of Rap/Hip Hop 2) to open up dialogue amongst the fans and 3) to cause a shiteload of controversy, which in turn equates to album sells/$$$. Good job Nas. Is Hip Hop really dead though??? Hell no and Nas knows that. If he honestly believed that Hip Hop is dead, that would mean he's totally shittin on cats who are living and breathing Hip Hop i.e. real DJs (strictly wax), graff artists, b-boys, real emcees. And that's not Nas' steelo, he respects the art but about 1 to 2 million people didn't get the memo. Nas don't really think Hip Hop is dead. Nas saying Hip Hop is Dead would be him admitting he's not Hip Hop. So, lets dead all that Hip Hop is dead talk...Saying Hip Hop is dead would be like saying Condoleeza Rice could get it and that's a no no on any block. Hip Hop is where it's always been, dwelling beneath the surface aka the underground, you just have to look. If you want to hear some real Hip Hop turn off your fucking radio/tv get your lazy ass on the internet and download (I mean buy)some MF Doom/Madlib, some Pharoah, Kidz in the Hall, Blue Scholars, Marco Polo, Talib or whatever suits your taste.
2. The "I'm Tired of the Radio/BET playlist" Spiel
And Last time I checked, the radio/106 & Park wasn't for the avid Hip Hop fan. It's for 13/14/15 yr olds who are just learning how to use their genitals which is why every song you hear alludes to genitalia related actions "Lip Gloss" & "Pop Lock and Drop It" "Get Me Bodied". Why do kids like the music, they do??? Who the hell knows. Kids have always been idiots througout time especially around puberty. But most Hip Hop records are a little bit too dense for an early teenager to comprehend. So let's stop complainin about what they play on the radio. There's an easy solution for riddin yourself of the feco matter they play on the radio, turn that shit off.
Another blogger made reference to the radio feedin kids BS which is true but radio doesn't turn kids into criminals, poverty does among other things and radio doesn't turn girls into sluts, sluts are just born that way. (naw jk). But society as a whole is crumbling, morally. Rap and R&B is only a very very very small piece of the problem. The music only chronicles where the people are. Society as a whole's paradigm has switched from long term benefits to to instant gratification. Another blog, another time.
3. The Stack Bundles Memorials
I don't have a problem with people sending condolences or mentioning a fond memory of dude with a RIP attached. That's paying someone their due diligence when they pass but let's not make it the trend du jour which is what it's become in the blogosphere. Show some respect you fucks. Cats will write a blog ethering a song/artist and throw in oh yea, R.I.P. Stack Bundles. I don't know Stack Bundles, I'm not familiar with many of his tracks and point blank, I don't know shit about dude but I'm not writing blogs about Stack and how much I missed dude either. If you're going to write about dude, at least mention a track he's done that you were feeling, a verse you heard you thought was dope, an interaction with him i.e. Stack owed my $5 or something about duke. The guy deserves that much respect.
4. There is No Number 4
Well okay, I can throw some random tidbits together. A black dude, Lewis Hamilton, won a F-1 (formula one race) for the first time ever. I know no one gives two shits about racing but that shit is important. Paris Hilton ain't shit and I hope some big butch girl named Bruhilda puts her sweet candy ass in the jail commerce. And I'm starting a campaign. Start Snitchin'. Do I like cops, hell no. But do I like safe neighborhoods where I don't have to worry about getting swiss cheesed up hell yea. If that makes me a pussy, then so be it. I'm not trying to be the next Big, Pac, Big L, Stack B, or whoever.
PS What's up with random rappers catching eye jammies. It's the new etherization word to Fab, Uncle Murda, Cam and Jimmy and whoever else caught a Deebo.
PSPS When did Saigon get popular???
This is a hip hop site and I know this, but this must be said. I was at a Turner event yesterday in ATL for the preview of the new Tyler Perry show, House of Payne. Did I know the show was going to lick taint, Yes. Did I know it was going to be unbridled coonery, Yes. Did I know the extent to how hard the show was going to blow balls, No!!!. That show almost made me vomit. I mean I never really understood the fuss about all those stage plays with Tyler Perry in the first place but I imagined it was a past time for old bags who didn't have much else to amuse them. There's no doubt that at a family event, someone would pop in "Madea's Shuck and Jive" and a group of old wenches would crowd around the tv like it was the Sopranos, the Wire, 24 or something that was actually good. I never watched one Madea movie because 1) IT'S A MAN DRESSED IN DRAG AND WELL, THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME.
My time at the event was the quietest hour I've ever experienced. Even at Turner, the company that produced the show, the ball jugglers who attempt to ascend the corporate ladder sat silent as a mime. Didn't they already try to launch this show like 6 months ago and a guy jumped off a building or some shit. You would think after critics tore this brain fart apart last time, they'd ship this one off to the cemetery. No, not at all. I'm not going to go into detail about how lame the show was and what particular aspects were lame but just know, I wouldn't put my worst enemy through that. House of Payne may go down in history as one of the worst to ever do it alongside HomeBoys in Outerspace.
Note: G-Money, how could you do this??? All I could think when I saw that dude in person was "CMB, we all we got" and "am I my brother's keep, yes I am"
Circa 98/99 Rawkus was in full effect pumping out compilations like Soundbombing, Lyrcist Lounge and in general had hip hop on lock. Mos Def and Talib were building up steam on the underground. If my memory doesn't fail me, Mos started appearing more on Native Tongue posse cuts (alot of De La and Tribe features), Talib had some hot verses out and Blackstar (collectively) was being hailed as the new movement of hip hop. I was mad excited to cop the Black Star album. I borrowed my dude's copy as soon as it droppped as I was too broke even in those days to purchase an album; much hasn't changed. The shit bumped all the way through and not on some scream and throw your head against a speaker and wild out type shit or some yo, let me grab the hammer and rob somebody type tip or the i'm a jiggy coon type BS but on a socially conscious, logical, positive, lyrical tip. Let's see: "Definition," "Re-Def," "Children's Story," "Brown Skin Lady," "Thieves in the Night," and I can't leave out "Respiration." Plus you were getting an early Hi Tek on some tracks. The shit was a hip hop classic. It had passion, creativity...all that shit to make a true hip hop album. So, the duo splits and pursue solo careers...That's cool, Mos got enough charisma and Talib's rhymes were dope.
Mos drops Black on Both Sides, a dope album not a classic but dope (for some it's a classic not me). Mos creates a versatile album with tracks like "Miss Fat," "Mathematics," "Mr. Nigga," and "Umi Says" showing that his artistry spans past just rapping. It was a good album for the genre of hip hop, Period. It showed creativity didn't have to be limited.
Talib & Hi Tek drops Reflection Eternal. Not to be outshined by partner, Mos, Talib also drops a near classic. Tracks like "The Blast," "Move Somethin," "Eternalists," and "Soul Rebels" were some of my favorites but even at, I think, around 23 tracks, it didn't seem over extended and for a cat to have that many quality tracks without every other track being a skit is amazing. Plus Talib's clever punchlines and dense lyrical verses left the listener with alot to think about (which then was a good thing. now, not so much--we're an instant gratification crowd nowadays--again not all but most).
Then the decline...
Mos drops his version of Common's (pussy whipped, spaceship ride--Sorry Com) Electric Circus, The New Danger. I remember thinking what the hell is this shit?? There's nothing wrong with growing but changing your whole steez up when you're fan base has come to love you for something else is simply wrong. The album seem confused, lacked a real direction and simply put, weird as shit. It was equal parts: 1/4 mushroom trip, 1/4 political rants, 1/4 some regular Mos BK shit and 1/4 crap.
Ok so now Quality drops. Mos didn't do so well but I know Talib wouldn't fail me. Wrong. Talib and Hi Tek divorce b/c of some shit I can't really remember. Hi-Tek's absense becomes ever present on this lp and Kweli struggles to find an identity. I'm a big time Kweli fan so when I hear dude name dropping Gucci or LV bags (whatever the shit was) on "Waitin for the DJ" I figured that Kweli had sold his soul to Satan for a Range and a shiney ice chain. Other tracks that left a sour taste in my mouth (pause no fruity) "Shock Body," "Gun Music" and even the Kanye assisted tracks seemed out of place. Point blank, in my personal opinion Quality was lackluster at best. Real talk on this album, Kweli saw his opportunity to hit mainstream and swung and his core audience (some not all) took it as he turned his backpack in for a pass to the Bigs aka Hollywood.
At this point, Mos was making mills off movies so I'm sure music was his last worry. Talib dropped Beautiful Struggle which was an okay album but I really wasn't feeling it and only gave it about a listen or two. I'm not going to front like I know that album from top to bottom. I barely remember it which to me, indicates it wasn't that great. Talib gets jammed up on the industry shit, seeks out of the majors. Mos returns to music drops True Magic which was not a bad album but I think because of the label drama he was going through those outside factors really derailed the project from hitting its full potential. Cats didn't even know it dropped. It came out right around that time window between Kingdom Come and Hip Hop is Dead. And I think alot of the controversial (aka good shit) got nixed because Daddy Big Dick aka the label didn't feel comfortable with putting out the uncensored version. Since then Kweli's done some other indie projects but I ain't been checking for dude really. I got Eardrum (for review purposes solely, lol) and I'm going to listen to it for real b/c despite his last couple of efforts, Kweli is better than 90% of the other rappers out and actually has passsion for the music. And good rappers deserve forgiveness even if they do drop some shitbag albums. I'mma cop the Liberation joint he did with Madlib too. Madlib might be the most dynamic hip hop musician of our time but I'll write something up on that another time.
But let's keep it all the way live here. These dudes just aren't as good as they could be as Black Star. They balance each other's styles out. Add in Hi-Tek and you got money in the bank (not in the literal sense but dope shit. y'all n****s know what I'm saying). The reunion album has been in the pipeline for damn near 6 years. C'mon guys lets put the egos aside and make it happen. Release the shit on Koch for all I care. Hip hop misses Black Star. Hip hop needs Black Star.
So, I was just thinking about hip hop classics a la Ready to Die, Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Cuban Linx and something just occured to me. Almost every hip hop classic (barring Tribe/De La classics and a few others) has some references to slingin' crack, blow, coke or heroine. I'm not going to go into the history of rap and its allusions to the dope game because I don't have the time to scan the lyrics of all the hip hop/rap albums in the world. I mean this isn't some shit I'm pullin out my ass though (pause). But what the fuck is so fascinating about some two bit numb nuts selling a rock to a cock smokin fiend. It's so fascinating that rappers have been dwelling on it for about 2 and half decades (if not longer). I know some of these rappers were on the fiend end instead of the dealer side which is probably why their descriptions are so detailed but that's another blog but why is it as a collective, we still get excited as shit when someone rattles off a couple of similes about flipping birds, keys, cakes or pies??? I mean maybe I'm wrong. It's just a fleeting thought. What y'all think?
Recently, I was reading a blog about dope black movies and made me think...After 2 minutes of solid thought. I've decided that New Jack City is illest black movie ever. How many pull quotes are there from this movie? Honestly, there has to be at least 10; including favorites as "sit your two dollar ass down," "rock-a-bye-baby" and "I want to shoot you so bad my dick hard" (no fruity). It had everything a black person could want from a movie; reckless usage of money, senseless violence, n****s (sorry Russell) pullin' each other's man cards, long knives, sex scenes, usage of slang in a not so corny way, fresh fashion, drugs and brief nudity...What else is there??? The plot was actually good, the actors could act and it wasn't one of those low budget shitbags like what we're seeing now. Lately, black movies have been sucking ass. Usually they're a straight rip from scarface or are a re-enactment of Love and Basketball with different actors and minus the topic of basketball. New Jack City came out in the early 90s and there's still nothing fucking with it. What other black movie can you sit down and watch 20 years later. Personally, it's my favorite. What's y'all favorites???
Honorable Mentions: Friday, The Mack and Paid In Full, Menace II Society
Most of y'all probably forgot this Grafh existed or never knew who he was in the first place. Although he's like 23/24, he birthed alot of East Coast flows right around that time 01 or 02, which made me wonder. Is Grafh the original Joe Budden??? All respect due to both emcees but the flows are alot alike...I don't know. What do y'all think?

