Then You Can’t Imagine was with Navarre, which is a pretty big distribution company only they mostly did DVDs and movies and shit like that, but they still had the ability to get us in all the chain stores and the independent stores just as good as Epitaph. So really, going to Warner is an easy step because we’ve been playing the game with major distro for so long now. The only catch now, is kind of like when Epitaph took us a step up from Fat Beats, there is a brand name that comes along with Epitaph. Even independent stores that weren’t fucking with us before are fucking with us now, "Oh, we’ll take five of those," because of the Epitaph name. Once they took five and sold through, they took 10 more. So when we went to Navarre we had momentum and even though we didn’t have the Epitaph name, they still took our shit. Now with the Warner name its like going to the playground with the biggest of big brothers there, going "Look at my little brother in the sandbox." You know what I mean? So now we’re in the sandbox with all the big names. It doesn’t mean our record is gonna fucking sell, you know it depends, is our video gonna get played? Is the radio gonna pick up any of our shit? No. You heard the record, what are they gonna pick up? Maybe “You”? [It's the] poppiest shit we ever made; nope, we’re not making it a single. So there it goes, our one chance of making radio and me and you [Slug points to Ant], are gonna sabotage that shit. "No, don’t send that one to radio." I don’t think its in our future to become famous unless it is literally in our future like God wants it to happen. 'Cause otherwise me and him fight the shit, we always make the decision that is against common sense. [Laughs] I don’t know why, we’re afraid of being famous. Especially at this point, I’m hitting fucking 37 and all of a sudden I’m going to get fucking recognized when I go buy a sandwich at Subway.

DX: I think that would be horrible, I can’t understand why people want fame.
Slug: People want fame because of the money and the validation. Most of the time people who want to be famous didn’t have good parents.

DX: Yeah, shit I’ll take the money…
Slug: Me too, don’t get me wrong. I wanna buy an island from Willie D. [Writer's note: this was a joke from a previous conversation] But people who want fame, there is something missing from their lives that they’re trying to fucking get. I understand it, I’m not mad it. It’s just not my thing.

DX: With your boy Murs actually being an artist on Warner, do you know how that’s working out for him?
Slug: That dude is the most optimistic person in the world, he knows how to adapt. If a bad situation is coming he might be like, "Fuck, how do I avoid this?" But if he wakes up and finds himself in a bad situation that dude knows how to maintain and still get his job done. So I don’t think I’m ever going to hear Murs complain about anything really, he’s not a complainer, he’s an adaptor. He’s one of those dudes who takes what he’s got and makes the best out of it, you know? But I will say I’ve heard plenty of positive things from Murs about the Warner situation. And honestly, I’m an observer. I’m really going to watch what happens here. Granted, I’m in a totally different situation because I don’t have an artist deal here and I’m not going to have financial backing from Warner. But I want to see how Murs plays this because it is going to make an impact on those following me and him, the ones who are coming up behind us. Because whatever happens with Murs is going to affect their decisions, if they sign or where they sign a deal. So this is really interesting to me and it seems like Murs has got it on his terms so how could you complain about that, you know? You’ve got to be realistic about this, especially when you’ve been in it for a while like Murs has, it’s a job. You want to do the best job that you can possibly do, every time. Now you might get hired by someone…like Nike, lots of kids hate Nike because of the sweatshops and all that.

Me? I’d go get a job with Nike. For starters, I feel like I could go steal from the devil. I could go work at 3M and I’ll do anything I can to bring them down just a little bit. I’ll steal fucking staplers. Murs is in a position to that, not like he is going to go steal Post-It Notes from Warner but he’s in the mix. It isn’t so much bringing them down but he can go in there and affect the next one’s coming up because the dude’s who came in before us didn’t. They didn’t go in there and fix anything, and I’m not saying Murs can fix anything on a large scale but he can make some differences. And Murs is the type of dude who will. Continued on page 4 »